In this article, I will be listing my ultimate fantasy rock and roll band.
However, this will be different than your usual fantasy rock band list where people create a theoretical supergroup composed of who they think are the best and/or their favorite musicians on each instrument: “I’d have Eddie Van Halen on guitar, John Bonham on drums, Geddy Lee on bass….” For my fantasy rock band, musical talent will not be a criteria I will be using. Nor will I be taking musical chemistry into consideration (i.e., how well the musicians on the list would musically mesh). For my fantasy rock band, the only criteria that I will be employing is how racist the musicians are.
Let me restate that racism is the only criteria I will be using. There are a lot of musicians who are generally right-wing like Dave Mustain of Megadeth, Johnny Ramone of The Ramones, or Mark E. Smith of The Fall. There are a lot of musicians that are anti-vaxers and some who have criticized wokeness. That is not good enough. If you want to make it into my ultimate fantasy rock and roll band, you must be full-on racist.
I also note that I will only be listing people from mainstream acts. Don’t come after me in the comments about so-and-so from this or that National Socialist Black Metal or white power punk band. Not only would that be cheating, it would be no fun. This is a list of musicians whom the average person might have heard of and who are known racists.
Lead Vocals: Morrissey
First off, my racist rock band needs a good front man. Lead singer is the most important position as they are the “face” of a band. There are several options.
Some might suggest David Bowie. A few years after retiring his Ziggy Stardust persona, Bowie created a new character called the Thin White Duke and he played this character from 1974 to 1975 during his Station to Station era. Whereas Ziggy Stardust was an alien rock star, the Thin White Duke was a fascist rock star. In a 1974 interview, Bowie in his Thin White Duke persona said “Britain is ready for a fascist leader… I think Britain could benefit from a fascist leader. After all, fascism is really nationalism… I believe very strongly in fascism, people have always responded with greater efficiency under a regimental leadership…”
However, in 1976 interview with Playboy, Bowie blew minds with his statement that “Rock stars are fascists. Adolf Hitler was one of the first rock stars.”
Bowie elaborates “Think about it. Look at some of his films and see how he moved. I think he was quite as good as Jagger. It’s astounding. And boy, when he hit that stage, he worked an audience. Good God! He was no politician. He was a media artist. He used politics and theatrics and created this thing that governed and controlled the show for 12 years. The world will never see his like again. He staged a country […] People aren’t very bright, you know? They say they want freedom, but when they get the chance, they pass up Nietzsche and choose Hitler because he would march into a room to speak and music and lights would come on at strategic moments. It was rather like a rock ‘n roll concert. The kids would get very excited – girls got hot and sweaty and guys wished it was them up there. That, for me, is the rock ‘n roll experience.”
That’s all good and well but Bowie was playing a character. He spent the rest of his life apologizing for this phase of career and insisted that it was the cocaine that made him say and do all those things. Not only that but he went on to marry a black woman in the 1990s.
For the purposes of this article, I am excluding people who use racist or fascist imagery ironically, artistically, or just to be provocative. To make it into my ultimate fantasy racist rock band, I must be convinced that the rock star in question is genuinely racist.
For that reason, I am disqualifying Siouxsie Sioux of Siouxsie and the Banshees from contention for the lead singer position. While she was famous for wearing swastika armbands in early performances and the original unreleased version of her debut single “Love in a Void” included the line “too many Jews for my liking”, she dropped that fascist shtick after her swastika armband got her beat up in Paris. She has since claimed that she only wore it to troll the older generation. Siouxsie has never been an overtly political rock star and for all I know, she might be an authentic fascist who is hiding her power level. Her music is extremely white and she’s never done anything cringe like bring a black gospel choir into the studio for a song. If she were a shitlib, there’s nothing stopping her from saying so and she hasn’t said so. But absent a clear declaration, I will take her at her word that her fascist arc was simply a troll.
Another contender for the lead singer position is Marilyn Manson. In 2021, Manson’s ex-girlfriend Evan Rachel Wood took to social media and accused him of being not only abusive but also a raging antisemite. “He would draw swastikas over my bedside table when he was mad at me,” Wood claimed.
Wait. It gets better. She also implied that Manson is also a race realist who knows that Jewishness is not just a religion. “Because [my mom] converted and wasn’t of Jewish descent he would say things like, ‘that’s better’ because I wasn’t ‘blood Jewish.'” There are also claims that Marilyn Manson has some tattoo that vaguely resemble Nazis symbols.
Not bad. But even if I were to take the words of a bitter ex-girlfriend at face value, I still have to deduct Manson points for the rest of his creative output. Whatever his opinion of Jews, Manson’s music and public persona are just as subversive and degenerate as anything the small hats in Hollywood ever thought to cook up. I’ll give Marilyn Manson an A for effort but I think we can find someone better.
A strong contender for the frontman position is Phil Anselmo of Pantera who has got himself into hot water a few times for racist hijinks like onstage Roman salutes and screaming “white power” in the middle of a song for no apparent reason.
Unfortunately, I have to deduct Phil some points on a couple grounds. First, Anselmo cucked in the face of the media backlash and claimed it was a joke or a troll or something. I couldn’t bring myself to watch it because I knew it would be painful. The toughest guy in the whitest and most macho of all music genres having to bend the knee beg to ZOG and beg the Jews to allow him continue having a career? Just a gentile humiliation ritual. Although, I think I read somewhere that he said he wasn’t serious but… I don’t know.
Second, it should be noted that Pantera had produced some cringe anti-racist songs in the past. I’m not sure I would even want Phil Anselmo on my side anymore. Look, I’m willing to welcome a new convert no matter where on the political spectrum, and I’m all for second chances but brother, I ain’t giving you three. You posted cringe. Whatever. Everyone has a past. Then you dip your toe into being based but then fold like the clothes laid out by your mommy once the Jews start yelling at you. Clearly, this racism thing ain’t for you. Phil Anselmo may have big muscles and have an intense voice but for all his tough guy posturing, he is lacking in a different kind of strength: moral strength. That is why he could never become a successful racist.
OK, we’re about a thousand words in. I’ll stop wasting your time and announce the winner. I’m handing the lead singer position in my racist band to a man who I’m pretty sure needs no introduction to those of us within Dissident Right: Morrissey.
Morrissey himself would probably object to being described as “racist” and I can believe him when he says that he feels no animosity towards any other race. He has fans all over the world and probably has friends of all races. I believe him when he says he is not racist. At the very least, he’s never done anything as flamboyant as Roman saluting or waxing poetic about the merits of Hitler.
However, in common parlance, a “racist” is someone who believes things about race that would hurt someone’s feelings if you said it out loud. It doesn’t matter if it is true. It doesn’t matter if there was no malice behind it and in fact, it might even make it worse if there wasn’t because that means you don’t even realize that you are racist. You could get called racist for quoting government statistics if doing so might hurt someone’s feelings. If you take “racist” to mean “believes things about race that would hurt people’s feelings if you said it out loud”, then yes, Morrissey is very racist.
A 2007 quote from Morrissey explains his general attitude on race:
Although I don’t have anything against people from other countries, the higher the influx into England, the more the British identity disappears. So the price is enormous. Travel to England and you have no idea where you are. It matters because the British identity is very attractive. I grew up into it and I find it very quaint and amusing. Other countries have held on to their basic identity, yet it seems to me that England was thrown away.
In 2024, it’s quite fashionable for British right-of-center pundits to talk about migrants eroding traditional British culture (as long as they do it in the right way) but Morrissey was talking about it during the George W. Bush years.
As far back as the 1980s, Morrissey noticed a strange negrophilia creeping into pop culture and correctly identified that it was politically motivated and being forced on the mass by the elites. In a 1986 interview with Melody Maker, Morrissey said:
I don’t think there’s any time anymore to be subtle about anything, you have to get straight to the point. Obviously to get on Top Of The Pops these days, one has to be, by law, black. I think something political has occurred among [television producer] Michael Hurl and his friends and there has been a hefty pushing of all these black artists and all this discofied nonsense into the Top 40. I think, as a result, that very aware younger groups that speak for now are being gagged.
The interviewer shit tests Morrissey: “You seem to be saying you believe there is some sort of black pop conspiracy being organized to keep white indie groups down.”
Morrissey passed the shit test: “Yes. I really do.”
This was incredibly farsighted on Morrissey’s part. Many interpreted these cultural shifts as the result of an organic change of public tastes and/or a desire for novelty but Morrissey saw that there hidden hand at work.
After leaving The Smiths, Morrissey’s first solo album Viva Hate featured a song entitled “Bengali in Platforms” in which he tells an East Asian immigrant “Life is hard enough when you belong here” (the implication being that Asians do not belong in England!).
The song hurt a lot of people’s feelings.
In a 1992 interview with Q, Morrissey famously said, “I don’t think that white and black people will ever really get on and like each other.” That statement is not racist in and of itself but it is an attack on the liberal worldview which promises you the multiculturalism of television where everyone gets along with each other.
Lefty journalists howled at the quote but 32 years later, has Morrissey been proven wrong yet? Are blacks and whites any closer to getting along and liking each now than they were in 1992?
The same year, Morrissey released Your Arsenal which included the song “National Front Disco”, an ambiguous but not-totally-unsympathetic song about the British white nationalist movement which included the line “England for the English” in the chorus.
That song ruffled some feathers.
And of course, there was the infamous Finsbury Park gig wherein Morrissey unfurled a Union Jack in front of a backdrop of two female skinheads.
And of course, there was Morrissey’s 2019 escapades during which he endorsed For Britain, an immigration restrictionist party led by Anne-Marie Waters which has been labeled “far right.” I wrote extensively about this at the time. See here, here, and here.
It is rumored that either Morrissey, Morrissey’s nephew (who runs his websites) or both is a lurker in the Dissident Right sphere. On his 2019 tour, Morrissey shouted out two Dissident Right (and adjacent) personalities.
At his 2019 Montreal show, Morrissey asked the crowd if they knew who Styxhexenhammer666 was.
At his 2018 Toronto show, Morrissey name dropped Faith Goldy.
And then there was the Morgoth’s Review affair. I don’t know for sure, and I wouldn’t expect him to admit so if he were, but Morrissey may very well be lurking these corners.
In the 1980s, Morrissey was associated with the Left. I mean, The Smiths participated in Red Wedge for Pete’s sake! The 1990s skinhead movement never fully embraced Morrissey. However, in the last five years, Morrissey has become something of a folk hero in the RW internet in the last five years. Many in the RW sphere use Morrissey as their avatar, most notably the popular Twitter account Future Moldova Citizen. A couple years ago, VDare auctioned off tickets to a Morrissey concert as a fundraiser as they believed he was an artist who represented the values of VDare.
So, for four decades of saying true things about race that hurt a lot of people’s feelings, I am making Morrissey lead singer of my fantasy racist rock and roll band!
Backup Vocals: Nico of Velvet Underground
Now that we have our lead singer taken care of, we need a backup vocalist. Preferably a female who can add a little sex appeal. This one was easy. I’m going with Nico, the Hall of Fame racist and vocalist for the legendary 1960s counter-culture rock band, Velvet Underground.
Born in Nazi Germany in 1938, Nico acquired a lifelong hatred of blacks after being raped by a black American serviceman when she was 13 (note: researchers have had difficulty substantiating this claim).
Nevertheless, there is a story from the early 1970s wherein Nico allegedly smashed a wine glass in the face of Black Panther, Emmaretta Marks, while yelling “I hate black people!”. There is some dispute as to the details but according to one friend, “Nico was, I dunno, feeling neglected, or drunk, but suddenly she said ‘I hate black people,’ and smashed a wineglass on the table and stuck it in the girl’s eye. There was lots of blood and screaming. Fortunately, she just twisted it around her eye socket, so the glass never reached [the eye] but it’s not like she was being cautious.”
In 1975, Nico was dropped by her label Island Records for being racist about blacks. She was unaware that the “Island” in “Island Records” was Jamaica. As Nico recalled:
I made a mistake. I said in Melody Maker, to some interviewer that I didn’t like negroes. That’s all. They took it so personally. I had no idea that Island was a Jamaican company. They took it very personally, although it’s a whole different, entirely different race. I mean, Bob Marley doesn’t resemble a negro, does he? He’s an archetype of Jamaican … but with the features like white people. I don’t like [negro] features. They’re so much like animals.
People who knew her personally agree that Nico was also casually antisemitic in private, particularly when talking about her manager. In a 2007 Guardian article, her friend Danny Fields said Nico was “Nazi-esque.” “Every once in a while, there’d be something about Jews and I’d be, ‘But Nico, I’m Jewish,’ and she was like ‘Yes, yes, I don’t mean you.’ She had a definite Nordic Aryan streak, [the belief] that she was physically, spiritually and creatively superior.”
However wise Nico maybe have been to the Jews, it did not stop her from dating Jewish musician Lou Reed, although after he started becoming possessive of her, she dumped him and said, “I cannot make love to Jews anymore.” According Nico, Reed “never really liked me because of what my people did to his people.”
One friend said, “In Nico’s mind, almost any kind of suffering would have paled by comparison to what she saw and experienced during her early years in Nazi Germany.”
Nico’s in the band. Now, let’s get a couple guitarists.
Lead guitar: Eric Clapton from the 1970s
My fantasy racist rock band needs a proper guitar hero for the lead position. No, I don’t mean a legendary plays guitar. I mean someone who both plays guitar and takes racism to heroic levels. Well, lucky for me, I found someone who is both a legendary guitar player who took racism to heroic levels and it was a no-brainer: Eric Clapton from the 1970s.
On August 5th, 1976, Eric Clapton performed a concert in Birmingham, hometown of Enoch Powell. Part way through the show, an extremely unsober Eric Clapton stepped to the microphone and gave an epic white nationalist rant.
Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands. Wogs I mean, I’m looking at you. Where are you? I’m sorry but some fucking wog…Arab grabbed my wife’s bum, you know? Surely got to be said, yeah this is what all the fucking foreigners and wogs over here are like, just disgusting, that’s just the truth, yeah. So where are you? Well, wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country. You fucking (indecipherable). I don’t want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch’s our man. I think Enoch’s right, I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. Fucking wogs, man. Fucking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back. The black wogs and coons and Arabs and fucking Jamaicans and fucking [indecipherable] don’t belong here, we don’t want them here. This is England, this is a white country, we don’t want any black wogs and coons living here. We need to make clear to them they are not welcome. England is for white people, man. We are a white country. I don’t want fucking wogs living next to me with their standards. This is Great Britain, a white country, what is happening to us, for fuck’s sake? We need to vote for Enoch Powell, he’s a great man, speaking truth. Vote for Enoch, he’s our man, he’s on our side, he’ll look after us. I want all of you here to vote for Enoch, support him, he’s on our side. Enoch for Prime Minister! Throw the wogs out! Keep Britain white!
That speech broke my scanner when I tried to read the power level.
Two months after the incident and in the face of press backlash, Clapton initially tried to claim that it was all a comedy bit. You know. Performance art. “I thought it was quite funny actually. I don’t know much about politics. I don’t even know if it would be good or bad for him to get in. I don’t even know who the Prime Minister is now. I just don’t know what came over me that night. It must have been something that happened in the day but it came out in this garbled thing… I thought the whole thing was like Monty Python. There’s this rock group playing on stage and the singer starts talking about politics. It’s so stupid. Those people who paid their money sittin’ listening to this madman dribbling on and the band meanwhile getting fidgety thinking ‘oh dear.’”
To be fair, parts of the rant were funny. I laughed out loud the first time I read “I used to be into dope. Now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man”. Still, I have a hard time believing that the rant was totally ironic. I think it was probably what he truly believed and being in Enoch Powell’s home town and high on God-knows-what, he might have thought it was a good idea. I’ll give him credit that his first instinct was not to apologize.
Nevertheless, no matter how much Clapton has tried to distance himself from the speech it continues to haunt him. Just as you cannot “unsuck a dick”, you cannot unrant a rant that awesome. There will always be people who suspect that his words in Birmingham are what he really believes and they probably are. That is why Eric Clapton from the 1970s wins the lead guitar position in my ultimate fantasy rock band.
Rhythm guitar: Ace Frehley of KISS
KISS were a New York-based rock band that was half Jewish and half gentile. Singer Paul Stanley (real name Stanley Bert Eisen) and Israeli-born bassist Gene Simmons (real name Chaim Witz) were Jewish while guitarist Paul “Ace” Frehley was of Dutch/German stock and drummer Peter Criss (real name George Peter John Criscuola) was Italian.
In 2014, Paul Stanley released his autobiography Face the Music: A Life Exposed wherein he accused the two gentile members of the band of being antisemites. “Ace and particularly Peter felt powerless and impotent when faced with the tireless focus, drive and ambition of me and Gene. As a result, the two of them tried to sabotage the band — which, as they saw it, was unfairly manipulated by [us] money-grubbing Jews.”
The Jewish narcissism really jumped out of the page. In addition to this, Stanley has claimed that Frehley is an avid collector of Nazi memorabilia.
At first, Frehley took the accusation with the good humor characteristic of his gentile genetics and said that Stanley was only saying that to help sell his book and that he didn’t take it personally. Then, in an interview with the New York Post, Stanley was given the opportunity to walk back his accusations but instead he doubled down that his former bandmate was a Jew-hater. When asked if he really believed that Frehley and Criss were antisemites (like, really?), Stanley responded “Yes, I do. It’s based on years and years of interactions. It’s not pulled out of thin air.”
I mean, it’s not like a Jew ever pulled an accusation of antisemitism out of thin air before!
Obviously, there are reasons to suspect that Stanley is lying. First, he’s a Jew. Second, Jews say everyone is an antisemite and half the time, they believe it. Third, all KISS fans pine for a reunion of the classic KISS lineup and Stanley has to give them a reason for why he won’t do that. Of course, the reason is that Frehley and Criss would want too much money and Stanley could pocket a few more shekels touring with a couple of who-gives-a-shit session musicians filling their shoes than if he actually gave the fans what they want. But of course, he can’t say that so he has to call his former friends Jew-haters.
For his part, Frehley has denied accusations that he is antisemitic but I don’t believe him. I don’t believe him because I don’t see how anyone can spend as much time around Gene Simmons as Frehley has and not turn into a raging antisemite. I think if you forced Tommy Robinson to play in a band with Gene Simmons for a year, by the end of the year, Tommy would be talking like Lucas Gage.
We got our six-strings set. On to the four.
Bass Guitar: Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols
Bass guitar was a pretty a hard category for me to fill. Bass players tend to be less outspoken than singers and guitar players and so finding a racist bass player was tricky.
Honorable mention goes to Devin Ruben Perez, former bassist for the shoegaze band DIIV who in 2014 was exposed as being the prolific and extremely racist 4chan poster known as Devin-Chan. It came out that he had referred to electronic musician Zomby as a “nigger” and on the topic of Jews said “I’m a good goyim. Every time a Rabbi gets close, I shout out for my friend Burnstein and tell him to leave me alone unless they want to break their shmageggi, oy vey.”
Unfortunately, I feel that shoegaze is too niche of a genre and Devin Ruben Perez not well known enough for inclusion on this list.
I’m giving the spot to Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. Of course, Sid Vicious was known for wearing swastika t-shirts but many people in the 1970s punk era employed Nazi imagery for shock value. As I said earlier, using racist imagery ironically is not grounds for inclusion in my band on its own. Rather, I am including Sid Vicious on the list for the heroic act of kicking a girl out of his band for not hating black people.
Before he was bass player for the Sex Pistols, Sid Vicious was the lead singer of a band called Flowers of Romance. Flowers of Romance is one of those bands that is legendary not for their music, but due to a freakishly high percentage of their members going on to achieve fame in other bands (short-lived Liverpool punk band Big In Japan is another such group). The band’s lineup fluctuated but throughout the year of its existence, it included future Slits members, Viv Albertine and Palmolive; Kenny Morris who was drummer on the first two Siouxsie and the Banshees albums; founding member of both Public Image Ltd and The Clash, Keith Levene; and Marco Pirroni, who would become Adam Ant’s guitarist through his glory days. Last but not least, there was future Sex Pistol, Sid Vicious.
In a recent interview, original Flowers of Romance drummer Palmolive explained how she was kicked out of the band.
“We were practicing in my house. We finished practice. Everybody left… [Sid Vicious] didn’t. He’s hanging out… I was like ‘Why is this guy still here?’ I had my miniskirt and he was trying to act all macho and he goes ‘I hate blacks’. He looks at me and says ‘I hate blacks’. I go ‘I hate people who hate blacks’… Then I heard from someone ‘you’re out of the band’. I go ‘What do you mean I’m out of the band? Why?’ He goes, ‘You’re just not right’.”
For his glorious deed of kicking a girl out of his band for not hating blacks, I am awarding Sid Vicious the coveted bass player position in my ultimate fantasy rock and roll band.
Drums: Hilary Jones (Session Musician)
Drums was the hardest spot to fill for my band.
The easy thing to do would be to just use Peter Criss of KISS who, in addition to Ace Frehley, was also accused of being an antisemite in addition to being rude to Chinese waiters. However, I’m totally arbitrarily limiting my list to one member per band. Plus, if I put two KISS members on the list, people might think I’m some kind of KISS fan when I am most certainly not!
I very much wanted to make Keith Moon of The Who my drummer. Moon was known to occasionally go out drinking dressed in a Nazi uniform to freak out the squares. He also made Nazi jokes and his favorite comedian was Murray Roman who did a lot of spicy racial humor. However, Keith Moon was known as a prankster and I never saw harder evidence than that. He could just have an edgy sense of humor. Ironic racism is not enough, damn it! *slams fist on desk*
I took a look at Zac Hanson, drummer for Hanson of “MMMBop” fame. In 2020, his Pinterest account was leaked and it turned out he was a hardcore conservative. The accusation of racism was thrown at him and the band but upon looking at the evidence, the accusation boils down to the band’s refusal to repeat the phrase “Black Lives Matter.” They disavowed racism but simply refused to incant the three magic words which the band rightly identified as a trap. For a mainstream band that was still bold move but as far as I can tell, Zac Hanson is a normie conservative and not racist. Not good enough to make my list.
I had to resort to googling “racist drummer” and that’s when I learned of jazz session drummer Hilary Jones. She’s worked with Lee Ritenour, Dave Grusin, Scott Henderson’s Tribal Tech, Eric Marienthal, Doc Severinson, Brazilian guitarist Badi Assad, and Robben Ford. I don’t know who any of those people are but they all have Wikipedia pages. OK, so she has played with people that at least someone has heard of.
I found this video of her drumming and she’s really good.
She’s also totally redpilled
The story is that during the 2020 Summer of Floyd, Hilary Jones took to social media to give the blacks of the world a piece of her mind in a series of incendiary and 100% correct posts. The posts are now deleted and all I can find is this quote which was circulated around anti-racist social media.
I sent this quote through the Counter-Currents fact checking department and they found no falsehoods. There were other posts including one where she apparently called Africa a “shithole.”
As a result of her social media excursions, Jones lost her endorsement deals with DW Drums and Zildjian. However, what she lost in endorsement deals, she more than made up for in glory and a spot in my ultimate fantasy rock and roll band.
So that rounds out my ultimate fantasy racist rock and roll band. Feel free to dispute my choices in the comments but if you do, come up with someone more racist, not merely more talented.