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Part 4 of 5 (Part 1 here, Part 3 here)

Transcript by Hyacinth Bouquet. The following is a transcript of the fourth part of Marian Van Court and Arthur Jensen’s conversation, which can be heard here, or using the player below.

There are a few places where the recording is inaudible, and have been marked as such. If you can figure out what is being said, or if you have other corrections, please offer them in the comments below.