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Robert Stark talks to commentator Charles Lincoln on slavery and the prison-industrial complex. Topics include:

• How imprisonment replaced slavery


• The 13th Amendment and the exception it made for imprisonment


• Prohibition and laws criminalizing what one does with their body


• American folk heroes that would be criminalized today and how the essence of America was “lawless freedom”


• The Prison Economy


• The creation of the Department of Justice and the Federal Prison System after the Civil War


• US Prison conditions and how they are worse than slavery


• Charles Lincoln’s Prison Experience